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Battlefield 3 – party join problems and unlockable flares

by on Oct.31, 2011, under Battlefield 3, Gaming

So far, I’m loving Battlefield 3 – it’s great fun, and, I feel, an improvement on Battlefield Bad Company 2.

It’s not without its problems; though – here are my thoughts on what I’d like to see fixed:

Flares should be available by default

Flying is very difficult indeed, due to the fact that flares are an unlockable item, requiring you to score sufficient points in that type of aircraft to get them. So, you’ll take off in a jet armed only with its cannon, and no flares to shake off heat-seeking missiles; as soon as you’re airborne, people will be firing missiles at you, and, with no flares to throw them off, you’ll struggle to shake them, and will likely be shot down quickly, or spend your time in a series of desperate manoeuvres trying to shake off the missiles; you’ll not stay alive long enough to chalk up enough kills with the puny machine gun/cannon to score enough points to earn the flares

This means that players who have already unlocked the flares and missiles have a massive advantage over those players who haven’t yet, making it very hard for those who haven’t yet unlocked them to take part in jet/helicopter flying.

I’d like to see flares changed to standard equipment rather than an unlockable, so that you can at least have a chance of defending yourself while you try to get enough kills to unlock heat-seeking missiles yourself (something which, I believe, you’ll need to repeat for each individual type of plane in the game…).

Splitting parties on joining a game

Match-making can be a little shabby at times, too – invite friends to your squad, join a game, and you’ll quite often find you’ve been split up across different squads, and, often, even on opposing teams (even if there were only two of you) – a big failing for a game where teamwork and co-operation is important, in my opinion.

I think the match-making code needs to be able to look for servers with sufficient space to take all members of the party in a single squad on the same team without the game becoming unbalanced, and ignore that server if it’s not suitable.

(Note that I play on PS3; I do not know if the above points are valid for XBox / PC players)

EDIT: going by the number of people reaching this post with search queries like “battlefield 3 party join not working”, “battlefield 3 party problems”, “can’t join party battlefield 3”, it seems I’m not the only one annoyed by this.

EDIT 2: Looks like this is being worked on – EA blogged:

2) JOINING SQUADS AND STAYING THERE
Status: Fix pending in the very near future

Some people have experienced difficulties joining and staying in squads on console. We have identified the cause of this problem and will hopefully have a fix ready to roll out very soon. […] We will return tomorrow with an update on when this fix is live.

They also suggest following their guide to using the BF3 server browser. It’s not entirely clear, but it sounds like the filter settings chosen in the server browser apply also to the “Quick Match” feature, too.

M98B seems excessively powerful

The M98B seems to be excessively powerful compared to other sniper rifles in the game (although it may just be that I’ve just been unlucky and just seen it in the hands of very skilled players who managed a headshot every time – although I’ve been taken out with it in Canals was set up as an industrial harbor, featuring a mix of infantry, land vehicle, and boat gameplay. The attackers in Rush start out on an carrier ship and can reach the beachhead by amphibious vehicles, boats, and helicopters. All of the bases on the map hava single hit even whilst running a few times…)

You can’t quit after a round

When a match is complete, you see your stats, but there’s no option to quit – you have to wait for the timeout, then for the next map to load, and finally, when you reach the spawn selection screen, you can then quit. The most logical time to decide to quit is at the end of a round, so why not provide a quit option there? That would save a lot of wasted time, save the effort of loading the next map for no reason, and perhaps even give the server a better chance of making sure the teams are balanced, etc (it can have a clue who is planning to stay in the game, rather than doing balancing etc, only to see people drop out afterwards). Pure logic and usability would suggest allowing you to select to quit as soon as the stats from the completed round are displayed, I feel.


5 Comments for this entry

  • troybob

    agree with the flares. There should be nothing unlockable for the jets. The differences in loadout should depend on the model of jet you choose to fly.

    And quitting after a round is acheived by alt-f4. But still – they should make a quit button.

  • bigpresh

    Alt-F4 is a little tricky to hit on a PS3 joypad ;) (I should have mentioned that I play on PS3, really)

  • crimsondethomen

    Same problems on 360, and i agree totally with everything stated. Total time spent in aircraft….about 5 minutes. Every other match i join, i get pitted against my friends. Its crap, the beta didnt help at all.

  • Rempingball

    I fully agree with the above mentioned issues on the PS3 console. I did however managed to level up my jets and choppers but it was the most serious pain ever due to the lack of flares at the start.

    Few additional comments:

    Failing to join a game with your squad is ALMOST ALWAYS the case and if you finally get to join you end up scattered all over on both sides.

    I have that M98B Sniper Rifle and the longest shot I made on a moving target was 705 meters (Lucky Shot). In addition I have shot helicopter pilots on several occassions. The weapon has an extremely long range and less bullet drop but is far from overpowered and is actually a semi automatic IRL rather than a bolt action……. A body shot will not kill the target and headshots are just as hard to make as with any other sniper rifle. ( Just need less compensation for bullet drop )

    Helicopters have the issue of being able to unlock ‘ below radar’ but this perk can’t be selected after unlocking in the menu = it is not selectable and therefor obviously does not work = sucks donkey ballz

    This TV missle seems to be either very hard to master or bugged as it is often the case that they ‘bounce’ off an aerial target such as helicopters or jets (Not if you hit them low in the flank)

    The only things worth taking down with jets, are jets and helicopters, ground targets can be damaged but you need some luck to actually fully destroy MBT’s

    Go prone on a ridge and other players can see you as if you were hovering and in addition there are places where people go ‘inside’ parts of the map and even a .50 cal needs 5 bodyshots to kill the target.

    Team balance is seriously crippled, i end up joining a game and having a 10 match winstreak or a 10 match loss streak. ( the latter being the most common )

    Mortars are very nice to look at but hardly effective unless you litterally drop it on an enemies head. (You need a recon with an MAV cause that thing works wonders) IRL if a 60 MM mortar PD or proximity detonates within 10 meters, you have a challenge.

    If a recon uses a soflam on an MBT you still cant take down the target with a heatseeker from a helicopter but if the helicopter is targetted by that same soflam you can be taken down by a Javelin ( IRL Javelin is Surface to Surface and Surface to Air and always hits with a top attack = does not need a soflam. Soflam or equivalents are used to designate targets on the ground for AIRSTRIKES)

    And finally YES I HATE NOT BEING ABLE TO QUIT RIGHT AFTER A MATCH.

    Great game in general and love playing it, hope this helps !

  • Rempingball

    Small modification:

    I do understand that heatseekers are Air to Air but if you make a javelin a surface to surface by default with no top attack and then give it the option of shooting jets after the jets have been targetted by soflam is just as ridiculous as assuming that then heatseekers would also be able to hit lased ground targets as well.

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